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Old Mar 26, 2007, 10:05 PM // 22:05   #61
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Wow, I'm really impressed with just how much the developers are listening to the fans. I've heard people complaining about this for a while, I haven't been that bothered about it myself, but I am very glad I can finally get my last hero. It's nice to see those who did go to the trouble of getting him aren't getting screwed over either.

Good job.
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Old Mar 26, 2007, 10:09 PM // 22:09   #62
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Any news on how soon? Otherwise I'll have to buy some gems to get into the place, because I need to get him tomorrow...
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And, last bit of good news, we believe this update will be live in a couple of weeks.
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Old Mar 26, 2007, 10:11 PM // 22:11   #63
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hooray!
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Old Mar 26, 2007, 10:20 PM // 22:20   #64
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Woohoo, that's awesome! Good job ANet! *standing ovation*
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Old Mar 26, 2007, 10:48 PM // 22:48   #65
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I am pleased.
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Old Mar 26, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58   #66
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Thank you Anet.
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Old Mar 26, 2007, 11:05 PM // 23:05   #67
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cool thanks Arenet for this great news. Ive been thinking of getting Razah by buying the gems set but the 80k or so has delayed my decision.

To those who complain about this coming update and argue that we have to work for it, why Razah? He is just a hero as others like Koss, Dunkoro. If you say he is not needed so we dont need to get him, change the way heroes have been recruited so that you have to pay to recruit each hero! They are all not needed as I can breeze through most of the missions/quests with just hench.

I think if there are 2 versions of heroe for each profesison, all of us would be happy. For example, make 1 easily to get and the other one uber hard and expensive to get. So most casual players can enjoy a regular one while hardcore players can show off their elite one.
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Old Mar 26, 2007, 11:08 PM // 23:08   #68
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I haven't really been complaining about Razah's acquisition because I haven't cared until recently, but it sounds good. Thank you for this addition Anet.
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Old Mar 26, 2007, 11:15 PM // 23:15   #69
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Honestly I have mixed feelings:

1) Glad it's now free... wish it was that way to begin with.

2) I payed 800k for 8 characters to get Razah because I <3 ritualists... The current re-sale value of those gems now equates to about 70k a set... meaning I lost 30k on each set... meaning I lost about 240 platinum because I would not have bought the sets otherwise...

Not necessarily 'complaining' just felt I should state why I have mixed feelings about this, hope you understand.

Hope Anet understands that this in no way 'rectifies' the problem, it merely appeases those who have yet to 'lose' out during this.

GJ either way Anet. I support your decision.

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Old Mar 26, 2007, 11:19 PM // 23:19   #70
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He is just a hero as others like Koss, Dunkoro.
Except Koss and Dunkoro are required for some missions, Razah is not.
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think if there are 2 versions of heroe for each profesison, all of us would be happy.
They made 2 versions of the 6 primary professions and 1 version of the 4 campaign specific professions, I think it was a good idea.

It is a good thing to work for something, you should not simply be handed everything you want. I have no problem with them adding this, as I have said. I even think they handled it well by creating the other quest. I have a problem with people whining about it being too hard.
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Old Mar 26, 2007, 11:29 PM // 23:29   #71
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great news, purposefully held back on getting razah cos it was much more profitable to sell the gemsets seeing as their price falls every week.
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Old Mar 26, 2007, 11:50 PM // 23:50   #72
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I am in the minority here. I worked hard to get the money for the 4 gems. I went with heros and henchies to get him. I died a few times, re-did my build, and tried again. When I finally got him I was so happy. Now this accomplishment was for nothing? I get my gems back(which are worth a % of what I paid for them now). And I no longer have something that is special.

It's like if you had a very nice weapon, perfect. Then anet does a special drop weekend and all that drops is the same weapon you have. Your weapon suddenly looses its value, it's no longer "cool, or nice" because everyone and their mother has it now. I was happy when anet made it to where hero's can get rid of their pets. (Thank god, I was getting tired of 4 flamingos running wild on the battlefield). But this one I am not for. I don't like it one bit.

There are very few things left to do in this game but grind for titles. Hard or very hard side quests are what keep me going. One less hard side quest to do now, for the reward is worth nothing. When you work hard for something you value the reward that much more. When you are given something for almost nothing, it looses all of its value and just becomes a thing.

And the reward for killing mallyx is 30,000xp and 4 gems. So you had a choice. Coffer of Whispers or your Rit hero. I really wish Anet would actually make us work for things in game, instead of giving into posts where people cry about not having the "1337" items that everyone else has.
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Old Mar 26, 2007, 11:58 PM // 23:58   #73
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Just to refresh my memory, to get Razah back than. You need to pay the gems and do all those quests to get him right?
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Old Mar 27, 2007, 12:01 AM // 00:01   #74
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They made 2 versions of the 6 primary professions and 1 version of the 4 campaign specific professions, I think it was a good idea.
So where's the second mesmer hero again? I'm having trouble finding him.

Thought so. You were saying?
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Old Mar 27, 2007, 12:15 AM // 00:15   #75
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I totally agree with the 1st part to this, earning something makes a person grow and yet ANet in their infinite wisdom have decided its a game for spoilt brats so why not give them it on a silver platter, I'm sorry Gaile but I really think ANet are maybe just handfeeding the players that QQ about everything, maybe if I QQ that I dont have enough ecto's you'll make a free UW & FoW month as opposed to a weekend?
If you think getting 10 of each gemstone to get the only ritualist hero was a reasonable requirement for casual players, you're seriously delusional.

In other news - Yay!
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Old Mar 27, 2007, 12:24 AM // 00:24   #76
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And the reward for killing mallyx is 30,000xp and 4 gems. So you had a choice. Coffer of Whispers or your Rit hero. I really wish Anet would actually make us work for things in game, instead of giving into posts where people cry about not having the "1337" items that everyone else has.
Oh, yeah. There's certainly no effort involved in completing Nightfall and then doing the quest to get Razah, even without the gemstones. It's just like having a Razah-dispenser right outside Kamadan and in every guild hall.
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Old Mar 27, 2007, 12:27 AM // 00:27   #77
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yay! awesome annocement, im glad that Anet listens to their customers so much that they update meaningless PvE quests while leaving Jade Isle, soul raping,shadow stepping and hexes compleately untouched...../sacasm off
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Old Mar 27, 2007, 12:28 AM // 00:28   #78
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Oh, yeah. There's certainly no effort involved in completing Nightfall and then doing the quest to get Razah, even without the gemstones. It's just like having a Razah-dispenser right outside Kamadan and in every guild hall.
Everyone who bought the game will end up beating in sooner or later. And if a shitty player such as myself can solo the Razah quest, I am sure anyone else can. It took me 45minutes once I got the right party make up down.
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Old Mar 27, 2007, 12:32 AM // 00:32   #79
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If you think getting 10 of each gemstone to get the only ritualist hero was a reasonable requirement for casual players, you're seriously delusional.

In other news - Yay!
It was 1 of each gemstone to get razah, 15 of each to get an Armbrace of Truth.
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Old Mar 27, 2007, 12:42 AM // 00:42   #80
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Everyone who bought the game will end up beating in sooner or later. And if a shitty player such as myself can solo the Razah quest, I am sure anyone else can. It took me 45minutes once I got the right party make up down.
It's still a matter of time invested to reach that point. It's less money and/or time to get Razah with the change, but it's not completely gone as the poster I responded to suggested. The gemstones served mainly as a barrier to getting Razah, not so much an additional challenge.
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